Garmin Key Generator

Discussion in 'General GPS Discussion' started by MrGneissGuy, Dec 5, 2008.

  1. MrGneissGuy

    Retired VIP Guest

    Read the license agreement. It will spell out your rights and what
    you can and can't do with the software. As for your computer, maybe
    the support person considered your computer to be a repaired and
    upgraded computer and not a new one.

    Jack j
     
    Retired VIP, Dec 20, 2008
    #61
  2. MrGneissGuy

    Retired VIP Guest

    Read the license agreement, it will tell you if you can sell your
    license. I think you will find that you can't transfer the license to
    another person or computer.

    Jack j
     
    Retired VIP, Dec 20, 2008
    #62
  3. MrGneissGuy

    DaveG Guest

    Which may or may not be legally enforceable over and above the consumers
    rights and contract law. Most EULAs are such convoluted legalese that
    they basically boil down to not allowing you do anything their lawyers
    would prefer you not to do so they can make more profit. Some of it, if
    taken to court, would likely end up being classed as unfair terms and
    conditions which could conceivable make the whole contract null and void.
    IIRC you can legally buy a new, cheaper, OEM MS Windows with a new mouse
    so by definition, so long as you keep that same mouse you are "safe", even
    against the MS EULA :)
    (For "mouse", replace with bit of hardware of your choice.)

    All of the above is based on what I remember of UK consumer protection
    laws. It may be different in other jurisdictions.

    IANAL and did not research this just for this post but based it what I
    remember, which may wrong.

    The value of the information may go down as well as up.

    Do not use this as security on your home as you may lose it.
     
    DaveG, Dec 20, 2008
    #63
  4. MrGneissGuy

    DaveG Guest

    And in the UK, at least, that is not a legally enforceable term otherwise
    all those shops and internet sites selling "pre-used" software would not
    only be out of business, but get raided by the police.
     
    DaveG, Dec 20, 2008
    #64
  5. MrGneissGuy

    Jack Erbes Guest

    Russell Patterson wrote:
    I would do that in a heartbeat without having any qualms about the
    legality if I were working to meet my personal needs and standards of
    satisfaction.

    Copying my legally owned version of Garmin XT to a larger card to meet
    my personal requirements for storing additional data for Garmin XT or
    data for other applications that are sharing the card simply lets me get
    on with life. And, to some extent, it compensates for either a lack of
    foresight on Garmin's part or some level of technical incompetence in
    Garmin's software development.

    For Garmin to not understand that it is not realistic for users to want
    to allow a single card to occupy the only available expansion memory
    slot, and thereby block all further use of expanded memory on the
    device, is pretty stupid programming on Garmin's part.

    And what would be even stupider would be for Garmin to pursue the
    legality of a person doing it they owned a legal copy of Garmin XT. I
    mean Garmin has made the profit from the sale, and it costs them nothing
    to ignore the fact that people are finding work arounds to counter
    Garmin's lack of foresight.

    Garmin has a long history of being generally ignorant as to how their
    products are actually used and do not seem to base any software fixes or
    designs on the needs and desires of their customer base. They develop
    their products in a communications vacuum that seems to exclude even the
    other components of their own organization. And that sucks!

    Jack
     
    Jack Erbes, Dec 20, 2008
    #65
  6. MrGneissGuy

    Steve Calvin Guest

    Well, that's certainly not true according to Garmin. I had a 76CS when I
    bought my 76CSx. I sold my CS to a friend of mine WITH my copy of
    mapsource. We calle Garmin, told the rep what we were doing - she said
    "no problem, I'll transfer the hardware and software to... xxxxx"

    And yes, I bought CN for the 76CSx.

    As to the question regarding moving data to a larger micro card. IF you
    PAID for the original software and are only using it on the single
    intended device then no, I would not consider that theft. If you
    give/sell it to someone else or use it on multiple systems, then
    obviously yes, it is theft.

    I view that in the same light as the topos I bought from Garmin. The doc
    says that they have to be used on the CDs. Not true if you know how to
    do some simple regedits. So I have them on my harddrive. One copy, one
    GPS. Do I view that as theft? No.
     
    Steve Calvin, Dec 20, 2008
    #66
  7. MrGneissGuy

    Kevin Weaver Guest

    Call Microsoft. I did. That's what they told me.
     
    Kevin Weaver, Dec 20, 2008
    #67
  8. MrGneissGuy

    Joel Guest

    I believe it's the law requires you to have your head exam before you harm
    others and yourself. Do you know what SD MAP is?
     
    Joel, Dec 21, 2008
    #68
  9. MrGneissGuy

    Joel Guest

    Me? I think Microsoft steals lot of $$$ from me, cuz I have owned many
    many many times more Windows than what I am using. Or each laptop comes
    with a copy of Windows, and I (my familay) have owned around more/less 20
    laptops in the past xx years (we have 5 new laptops at the moment).

    And I hope our Retired VIP don't think that the Windows comes with laptop
    is free.
     
    Joel, Dec 21, 2008
    #69
  10. MrGneissGuy

    Joel Guest

    I think you need to undo your "retired" and learn to live a normal useful
    citizent. You are way out of wax.
     
    Joel, Dec 21, 2008
    #70
  11. MrGneissGuy

    Retired VIP Guest

    Hmmm.... My head was examined just last month, they didn't find
    anything.

    Look asshole, I didn't write the bill. I didn't pass the bill. I
    didn't sign the bill into law and I don't enforce the law. All I'm
    doing is telling you what you could learn for yourself if you'd just
    make the effort and read the license agreement you had to accept in
    order to use the software.

    As for an "SD MAP", I don't think there is any such thing. I know
    what a Secure Digital card is and I know what a map is but I've never
    heard of an "Secure Digital Map". Where would I find one and what
    would it look like?

    Jack j
     
    Retired VIP, Dec 21, 2008
    #71
  12. MrGneissGuy

    Strongbox Guest

    I bought a new compaq PC for my wife with Vista installed. Since Vista
    sucks (IMO) I erased the hard drive and installed XP with no problems.

    I believe this is legal since the old PC was scrapped with a wiped hard
    drive. I simply transferred XP to the new one. I am still only using the
    XP copy with one PC.
     
    Strongbox, Dec 21, 2008
    #72
  13. MrGneissGuy

    Steve Calvin Guest

    ok... am I missing something?? This IS a garmin usenet group isn't it??
    Or are my eyes going so bad that I can't distinguish "Microsoft Windows"
    from Garmin? ;-)

    I believe the OP's question dealt with Garmin not Micro$oft.
     
    Steve Calvin, Dec 21, 2008
    #73
  14. MrGneissGuy

    Strongbox Guest

    Sorry. The thread moved into the legality of transferring software from one
    device to another.
     
    Strongbox, Dec 21, 2008
    #74
  15. MrGneissGuy

    Joel Guest

    Wrong doctor maybe? most of us can see something ain't right with your
    head without examining it.
    You do not need to call or treat yourself as an asshole. We know you
    didn't write the bill cuz you ain't very smart, and I don't think you are
    smart to be my asshole either (my asshole seems a little smarter than you).

    Most of us know exactly what license and license agreements are but you.
    Yes, I say "licenses" cuz it isn't just software alone.
    There are lot of things you don't know, so pull your head out of the hole
    below and learn to be normal.
     
    Joel, Dec 22, 2008
    #75
  16. MrGneissGuy

    Rev Bob Guest

    This does not have the option for City Nav 2009. I purchased a used
    2610 and cannot get an unlock code because the previous owner
    registered it and you need to register to get an unlock code. I
    cannot locate the previous owner to "unregister".

    I understand this is a theft deterrent, but how about legit used
    sales?

    B
     
    Rev Bob, Dec 27, 2008
    #76
  17. B,

    didn't the previous owner pass on the mygarmin registration account to
    you?
    If yes, look under "maps" und you should find all the information you
    need.
    How about a sales contract? No address, phone numer? Address?
    Have you considered calling Garmin?

    Mike
     
    Michael Jaeger, Dec 27, 2008
    #77
  18. MrGneissGuy

    Rev Bob Guest

    No, I did not know it was needed.
    Sales contract? No sales contract when you buy a used item from a
    private person normally.

    No address, phone numer? Address?
    What other consumer product requires such hoop-jumping?
     
    Rev Bob, Dec 27, 2008
    #78
  19. MrGneissGuy

    Joel Guest

    Me? because Garmin is very stupid about marketing or their copy protection
    sux. So I would say *if* Garmin refuse to improve their supporting,
    treating customer nicer I would say go for the warez version instead.

    I remember few years ago when I needed to change different Map Area for my
    older Street Pilot III (I have 2 128MB Data memory cards) and it took me
    awhile to remember the registration Name and Password to be able to activate
    the older City Navigator v4.01

    Yes, Garmin still had the information (after many years), but they haven't
    figured out that customers may not remember after years. BTW, it was so
    close to the day I had to drive across 2-3 states, and I was pretty mad at
    Garmin.
     
    Joel, Dec 28, 2008
    #79
  20. sorry to hear that, but Garmin Germany seems to be different somehow. A
    week ago I had to call them about some minor problem and their help was
    quick and precise.
    I would not rely on *my* memory - I write it down and keep it in a safe
    place :)
    I can understand that.

    Happy New Year.

    Mike
     
    Michael Jaeger, Dec 28, 2008
    #80
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