Maps for my Garmin Nuvi 200?

Discussion in 'General GPS Discussion' started by W. eWatson, Apr 2, 2010.

  1. W. eWatson

    W. eWatson Guest

    I bought Subject unit a year ago but didn't attempt to download any maps
    for more than 90 days. Apparently, in that period, they were free. When
    I checked a few months ago, they wanted a price well beyond the price of
    the unit ($125), which was discontinued about a year ago. I just did a
    Google on maps for it and found a number of sites offering free maps.
    Are these of any use with the 200?
     
    W. eWatson, Apr 2, 2010
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    PeterM Guest

    It is doubtful that any other maps other than Garmin will work for
    Garmin GPS receivers.
     
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  3. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Map_On_Garmin/Download

    I don't download them from that site myself though. I download
    raw OSM data every 2 weeks and make my own Garmin-format maps,
    which I use in my 3 Garmins:

    GPSmap 60CSx
    GPSmap 76CSx
    Nuvi 1350

    John
     
    John Henderson, Apr 2, 2010
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  4. W. eWatson

    W. eWatson Guest

    OK, I go to that site and see how it might be done. I guess I go to
    Provider or Routable and download something from there for the United
    States. I'm interested in street maps. Do I need a map source installer?
    Where do I get it? How do I make Garmin maps? There's USB port on the
    back of the 200, which normally is used for power. Do I some how upload
    the prepared maps through it?
     
    W. eWatson, Apr 3, 2010
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  5. Not unless you want to combine two or more maps into a single
    composite map. When I used to do that on a Windows system, I
    used this program:

    http://www.img2gps.co.cc/

    On Linux, I use mkgmap:

    http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mkgmap
    If you come across a single image file which will do you it will
    have a ".img" file name extension. Just rename that as
    "gmapsupp.img" and it should work.
    I'm not familiar with the Nuvi 200, but I see it takes an
    optional SD data card. That's where you'll need to put your
    alternative map. That map must be called

    gmapsupp.img

    and be located in a top-level directory/folder on the SD card.
    That folder must be named

    Garmin

    A 1GB or 2GB SD card should have more than enough room. Anything
    bigger (namely an SDHC card) mightn't work unless your Nuvi has
    the latest firmware installed.

    A Garmin USB cable could be used to create the folder and
    upload the map to it "in situ". Alternatively, you could use a
    card reader to prepare the card, and then just plug it into the
    Nuvi when it's ready to go.

    You may have to specifically select the OSM map in the Nuvi's
    menus. On my Nuvi 1390, that's done by selecting:

    Tools / Settings / Map / Info

    and then ticking the OSM entry (and unticking any other entry
    which shows).

    John
     
    John Henderson, Apr 3, 2010
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    Bob Martin Guest

    Bob Martin, Apr 3, 2010
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    JMc Guest

    I believe the Nuvi 200 provides an audible announcement of turn by turn
    directions. If you like that feature, you may want to ensure your quest for
    free maps include that capability. Garmin maps are expensive, but the
    include considerable value.
     
    JMc, Apr 3, 2010
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  8. W. eWatson

    W. eWatson Guest

    I mounted the nuvi 200 on my machine, USB port. I see lots of folders on
    it. Presumably one, two or all of these folders need to be modified.
    Well, maybe one of the sites mentioned in posts above yours does this as
    needed.

    How would I know if a "map" contains audio.

    Yes, they are a value, but don't like getting stuck for at least one
    free update that I missed in the first 60 or 90 days. Further, paying
    $100, say, for an update now suggests I might as well buy another unit
    with more facilities.

    Maybe there's an Ebay market for older (un updated) nuvi 200s?
     
    W. eWatson, Apr 3, 2010
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  9. In my experience with other Garmin models, the turn notifications
    are a function of the GPS unit alone. As long as the maps are
    routable, the GPS will give its instructions.

    John
     
    John Henderson, Apr 3, 2010
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  10. W. eWatson

    W. eWatson Guest

    I would guess that I need the routable map from the site above for the
    link you provided? If I look at the OSM link, it shows a number of maps
    with long and lat in their names. They are img files. What do I use for
    NA, and why is the long negative? -90 degrees would take me somewhere In
    India. Do these maps actually show streets and roads along with
    attractions?

    I must be missing something about the SD cards. Is there one in the
    unit? If so, how do I get it out? I've hooked up a USB cable between
    this PC and the Garmin. It seems to my for safety sake I should download
    the Garmin folders and files, and then upload whatever I need to the Garmin.
     
    W. eWatson, Apr 3, 2010
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  11. Yes, you need routable maps if you want your GPS to actively
    assist you with navigation. Non-routable maps just show things,
    like paper maps do.
    What's "NA"?

    All longitudes from Greenwich west to the international date line
    are negative, just as all latitudes south of the equator are
    negative.

    Being east of Greenwich, India has positive longitudes.
    The short answer is "yes". They show whatever OSM contributors
    have added, including streets and POIs. If you want something
    fixed or something else added, consider becoming an OSM
    contributor yourself. See www.openstreetmap.org
    Look at the "Getting Started" page of your owners' manual,
    available here:

    http://www.garmin.com/manuals/nuvi200_OwnersManual.pdf

    I notice that it might be either a full-sized SD card, or a much
    smaller micro-SD card. You'll need to check.
    You need to be looking at the folders and files on the SD card,
    not on the Garmin hardware itself. That should come up as a
    separate drive when installed and then connected to the PC.

    John
     
    John Henderson, Apr 4, 2010
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    ps56k Guest

    What are you looking for - or trying to accomplish - or what kind of map ?
    are you trying to get a FREE map update
    that will perform all the navigation, routing, and POI fucntions
    correctly on your Garmin 200 GPS ?

    What map do you already have on the "subject unit" ?
     
    ps56k, Apr 4, 2010
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  13. W. eWatson

    W. eWatson Guest

    Apparently, this is a difference between astronomers and geographers.
    Astronomy uses west long as positive. From a professional astro site:
    IMPORTANT -- BEWARE OF THE LONGITUDE SIGN CONVENTION. The
    longitude returned by slOBS is west-positive in accordance
    with astronomical usage. However, this sign convention is
    left-handed and is the opposite of the one used by geographers.
    I am an astronomer.

    Looking at the /Garmin/Lambertus Index of OSM files, I see maybe 50
    files in subfolders and the main folder. Nothing is marked for NA or the
    USA. The lat/long values on the file names are of no help. I would
    expect one of them to correspond to the img file in the next paragraph.

    Plugging the 200 into my usb cable, I see Diag, Help, Vehicle, Debug,
    Voice, etc. folders. In the main folder there are a gmapbmap.img (6M)
    and a gmapbmpa.sum (1K) file. Two others for the prom.
    Mine has disappeared but thanks for the link. I'll take a look.
    The only think I see that might look like a memory card is on the bottom
    where the serial number bar code is located. The manual has several
    reference to the card, but not a single statement on how to get at it. I
    tried push on the slot, but nothing happens. It seems quite rigid. My
    guess is there an internal SD and that's it. All the folders on files
    are on it. See above where I name some of them.
     
    W. eWatson, Apr 4, 2010
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  14. W. eWatson

    W. eWatson Guest

    See my post to John Henderson a moment ago. I'm just trying to get a
    better map than the one that came with the unit. It obviously has
    problems. When I was around Athens,GA last year in Oct. it was very
    untrustworthy. Similarly around other places in the SE. I must say it
    did a bang up job getting me to the Salt Lake airport when I was coming
    down the mountains from the east into the city!
     
    W. eWatson, Apr 4, 2010
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  15. Try Bob Martin's suggestion of:

    http://garmin.na1400.info/routable.php
    A SD/microSD card won't have been supplied with the unit new. So
    the slot shown in the manual is likely empty.

    There won't be an internal SD card - it'll either be removable by
    pushing it, or it'll be absent.

    Micro-SD cards are becoming very easy to find these days, since
    many cellular phones use them for music storage. Even my local
    supermarket sells them.

    And many micro-SD cards come with a full-size SD adaptor so the
    the card will fit in a device requiring either.

    John
     
    John Henderson, Apr 4, 2010
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    W. eWatson Guest

    I'm drawing a blank on what to do with this site. I selected NA from
    the top, then USA, and the instructions that follow seem weak. It says
    fill out a form. What form? Am I missing something since I'm using FFox
    and not some MS browser?

    Ah, there it is on the left, Build my map and fill in my e-mail. Nicely
    hidden. This is almost as good as web builders who seem to build the
    important controls to the far right. When one looks at the page, some
    matters (buttons, menus, ...) are out of sight. Moving the horizontal
    scroll bar reveals them.

    OK, after writing the last several sentenes, I have a message that says
    "Error: No (valid) maps selected. Please try again selecting one or more
    maps. Go back." I hope I don't have to select individually all the files
    for the USA. The site talks about selecting tiles. Hmmm. How? OK,I
    missed the little check box above the map. Well, that didn't help.

    Maybe the USA isn't really a choice? I selected Calif, and get about 10
    cities listed. I have no idea how to proceed. The e-mail address box is
    no longer available.

    I guess I need to join the forum. Well, off to other matters for awhile.
     
    W. eWatson, Apr 4, 2010
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