Einstein's Relativity and Everyday Life -- Clifford M. Will

Discussion in 'General GPS Discussion' started by Sam Wormley, Jun 5, 2006.

  1. Sam Wormley

    dda1 Guest

    The fucker is on Google now , I guess he has all the exposure that he
    wanted:

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Mukesh+Prasad&btnG=Google+Search
     
    dda1, Jun 16, 2006
  2. Arghhh Bose-Einstein statistics..... my eyes! I actually enjoyed
    statistics mechanics more then I thought I would
    I am - but the story condensed is basically

    Jeff Relf proves he gets all his knowledge from Wikipedia
    I make a jokey comment in arguing against him (when he had said I like
    Windows or something like that) "I like Jaffa Cakes"

    He then tries to wiki them, fails and makes a tit of himself

    I point him to some info on H2G2, he then finds them on Wiki and again
    claims I know nothing about them compared to him, when as far as I can
    tell he's never seen one before and I have a serious weakness for that
    chocolately lovely mmmmmmmmmmm sorry Jaffa Cakes.

    I then point out how Jaffa Cakes are a good analogy for the failure of
    his method.

    A loud "Whoosh" is heard across Seattle as the point goes completely
    over his head!

    --
    The greatest enemy of science is pseudoscience.

    Jaffa cakes. Sweet delicious orangey jaffa goodness, and an abject lesson why
    parroting information from the web will not teach you cosmology.

    Official emperor of sci.physics. Please pay no attention to my butt poking
    forward, it is expanding.
     
    Phineas T Puddleduck, Jun 16, 2006
  3. Sam Wormley

    Eric Gisse Guest

    I'll get to statistical mechanics eventually, but I'm putting it off as
    long as I can. Of all the topics required for my physics degree, that
    is the one I am NOT looking forward to.
    If it were not for my weird interest in math/physics, I would probably
    be chasing something related to abnormal psychology. People like Jeff
    Relf are just *fun* to watch and screw with.

    Look at what he is doing on Wikipedia! It is like watching a human
    trainwreck over and over and over. I can't help but put up a chair, get
    a drink, and watch the show.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Albert_Einstein#Line_break_edit_war
    Every time he opens his mouth a similar sound is made either by hot air
    escaping or by the atmosphere filling the massive void between his
    ears.
     
    Eric Gisse, Jun 16, 2006
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    Phineas T Puddleduck, Jun 16, 2006
  5. Sam Wormley

    Eric Gisse Guest

     
    Eric Gisse, Jun 16, 2006
  6. Shades of Douglas Adams? ;-)
    But when we get there, phoowey then the fun starts! "Excuse me Dr
    Puddleduck, is that your universe in the car park? You can't leave that
    there!"
    Now cosmology really butters my muffin. But I'm working on sub-mm
    galaxies for my final year so its a bit more observational then I would
    have liked ;-)
    The course on the physics of stars this year burnt me towards dead
    stars. I don't want to see that again for a while - Lame-Emden (shiver)
    Or - when everyone says you're in a hole, stop digging !
    Ok no sleep tonight!

    --
    The greatest enemy of science is pseudoscience.

    Jaffa cakes. Sweet delicious orangey jaffa goodness, and an abject lesson why
    parroting information from the web will not teach you cosmology.

    Official emperor of sci.physics. Please pay no attention to my butt poking
    forward, it is expanding.
     
    Phineas T Puddleduck, Jun 16, 2006
  7. Sam Wormley

    Eric Gisse Guest

    While my style of writing, intentionally as often as isn't, does borrow
    from a lot of folks but Douglas Adams isn't one of them.
    We won't be even within an order of magnitude of Planck energies within
    either of our lifetimes. Probably not even the lifetimes summed. Mabey
    squared though. I wouldn't bet on it though..
    Sub-mm galaxies? Any guess I can make will probably be wrong so it is
    easier to ask...

    [...]
     
    Eric Gisse, Jun 16, 2006
  8. Observing galaxies at sub-mm wavelengths - i.e in the microwaves. I'll
    be coding from data of observations...

    Its late, I tend to be a bit confused at this time ;-)

    --
    The greatest enemy of science is pseudoscience.

    Jaffa cakes. Sweet delicious orangey jaffa goodness, and an abject lesson why
    parroting information from the web will not teach you cosmology.

    Official emperor of sci.physics. Please pay no attention to my butt poking
    forward, it is expanding.
     
    Phineas T Puddleduck, Jun 16, 2006
  9. Sam Wormley

    Eric Gisse Guest

    Whats so special about those?

    All the cool galaxies are hiding in the radio spectrum...
     
    Eric Gisse, Jun 16, 2006
  10. The detector will also be working on planetary stuff as well. This is
    all high z-based stuff. Stuff to do with inflation

    sort of like

    http://www.citebase.org/cgi-bin/citations?id=oai:arXiv.org:astro-ph/0406
    069

    Im at the preliminary reading stage right now ;-)

    --
    The greatest enemy of science is pseudoscience.

    Jaffa cakes. Sweet delicious orangey jaffa goodness, and an abject lesson why
    parroting information from the web will not teach you cosmology.

    Official emperor of sci.physics. Please pay no attention to my butt poking
    forward, it is expanding.
     
    Phineas T Puddleduck, Jun 16, 2006
  11. Sam Wormley

    Sam Wormley Guest

    I, for one, am enjoying your exchange, gentlemen! Oh to be back in
    school again. It's an awful lot of work!
     
    Sam Wormley, Jun 16, 2006
  12. Tell me bout it ;-)
    --
    The greatest enemy of science is pseudoscience.

    Jaffa cakes. Sweet delicious orangey jaffa goodness, and an abject lesson why
    parroting information from the web will not teach you cosmology.

    Official emperor of sci.physics. Please pay no attention to my butt poking
    forward, it is expanding.
     
    Phineas T Puddleduck, Jun 16, 2006
  13. Sam Wormley

    Eric Gisse Guest

    Personally uninteresting, but essential.

    Knowing something as simple as distance can be very important...

    I'd rather see people study things like quasars and other objects that
    fly under the banner of "active galactic nuclei". I attended a small
    talk about them before I left for summer break. It was very
    interesting...

    Basically, we know black holes and the fun associated with stuff
    falling into them are what is driving them. But we don't know much of
    anything with any certainty. We have a vague idea of the mass of the
    core, with the interesting addition with the occasional infalling
    intermediate mass black hole. [I think I heard that there, but I know
    that has been seen before]. We don't know the actual mechanism that
    makes the jets, and the offered reasons had the professional physicists
    who study things like aurora confused.

    We don't have any idea how strong the electric or magnetic fields that
    are driving the jets happen to be. I was told "on the order of a
    neutron star's magnetic field", but I don't really buy that. We don't
    know how much mass is in the jets, much less what it is made of.

    Much to my internal amusement, a mention was made of the relativistic
    beaming effect that makes stuff appear to be superluminal. The guy also
    mentioned some of the pictures that he has published are now used on
    some crank websites, though the actual wording escapes me.

    I asked, and it appears we won't be getting any numbers for the black
    hole's charge and spin at this point in time. I'll be impressed when
    the error bars of the black hole's mass isn't measured in millions of
    solar masses.

    The stuff in the radio range is much, much cooler.
     
    Eric Gisse, Jun 16, 2006
  14. Sam Wormley

    Randy Poe Guest

    Good grief. As somebody said, it makes you want to just
    start pounding your head on the desk over and over.

    So what happened to the big multimillion commodity deal
    he was doing with tjfrazir? Last thing I saw before my vacation
    was when Jeff posted his address, phone number, and bank
    account info for all the world to see. Did he at long last get
    disillusioned? Or what?

    - Randy
     
    Randy Poe, Jun 16, 2006
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